I agree with Leviathan . . . (Gaming)

by Fuertisimo, Monday, September 07, 2015, 23:31 (3363 days ago) @ General Vagueness

I interpreted the Marty/Ryan protest as an after the fact thing, if I was reading what happened correctly but maybe not.

And as far as Marty being least of all surprised by what happened, that's kind of my point, he apparently was surprised, and not only was he surprised but one of Bungie's head honchos agreed with him regarding the situation. I think that's pretty telling. Whether they felt their was a contractual breach occurring or perhaps they had a verbal agreement regarding how marketing was going to be handled for that E3 event, something happened that Marty and Ryan either weren't expecting, didn't agree with, or both.

The Infinity Ward thing is one of the more egregious examples of Activision in action, but I think even more enlightening is looking up some Bobby Kotick quotes. Kotick is the exec who was on site at Bungie when the journalists first got invited to see the game, and then didn't get to see the game in one of the more bizarre PR maneuvers in recent memory.

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Marty O’Donnell wins epic legal fight with former bosses - CyberKN, 2015-09-05, 01:09
- I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - Leviathan, 2015-09-05, 02:06
  - I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - Schooly D, 2015-09-05, 02:18
    - I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - breitzen, 2015-09-05, 02:43
    - I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - Leviathan, 2015-09-05, 02:47
      - I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - Schooly D, 2015-09-05, 13:41
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - Jillybean, 2015-09-05, 14:27
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - SonofMacPhisto, 2015-09-05, 19:41
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - Cody Miller, 2015-09-05, 20:19
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - General Vagueness, 2015-09-05, 20:51
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - Xenos, 2015-09-05, 20:53
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - General Vagueness, 2015-09-05, 21:01
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - dogcow, 2015-09-05, 23:24
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - Kermit, 2015-09-06, 16:50
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - Leviathan, 2015-09-05, 15:21
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-09-05, 15:30
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - Xenos, 2015-09-05, 16:31
        
        +1 - red robber, 2015-09-05, 16:39
        
        Divorce? You mean we get two Christmases! - Funkmon, 2015-09-05, 16:46
        
        Yeah. - RaichuKFM, 2015-09-05, 16:51
        
        You made your point fine. - PsychoRaven, 2015-09-05, 18:01
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - General Vagueness, 2015-09-05, 17:52
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - SonofMacPhisto, 2015-09-05, 19:44
        
        I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - Xenos, 2015-09-05, 20:43
    - I know people will pick sides (and have already done so)... - narcogen, 2015-09-07, 23:04
- Well, I never thought we'd find out what happened this quick - Funkmon, 2015-09-05, 02:57
- Wow - car15, 2015-09-05, 04:15
  - tl;dr = fucking Activision, bad times Marty - Raflection, 2015-09-05, 04:22
    - I said explicitly that Marty behaved unprofessionally - car15, 2015-09-05, 04:27
  - Wow - Schooly D, 2015-09-05, 05:05
    - Wow - iconicbanana, 2015-09-05, 05:08
      - Wow - Leviathan, 2015-09-05, 05:43
      - Wow - Cody Miller, 2015-09-06, 01:12
        
        Wow - car15, 2015-09-06, 01:20
        
        Good point. - Cody Miller, 2015-09-06, 01:26
        
        Wow - cheapLEY, 2015-09-06, 02:04
  - Wow - Ragashingo, 2015-09-05, 14:23
    - Wow - Avateur, 2015-09-05, 22:57
      - Wow - car15, 2015-09-05, 23:02
  - Wow - FyreWulff, 2015-09-05, 19:14
    - +1 - Xenos, 2015-09-05, 19:18
    - Wow - Fuertisimo, 2015-09-05, 19:34
      - Wow - FyreWulff, 2015-09-05, 19:45
        
        Wow - Fuertisimo, 2015-09-05, 20:14
        
        Wow - cheapLEY, 2015-09-05, 20:35
        
        Wow - Fuertisimo, 2015-09-05, 20:49
- Poor Bungie - Ze Moose, 2015-09-05, 04:38
  - We get to experience the great publisher for another 9 years - Funkmon, 2015-09-05, 06:33
  - Poor Bungie - ncsuDuncan, 2015-09-05, 13:08
    - Poor Bungie - car15, 2015-09-05, 13:16
      - Poor Bungie - Xenos, 2015-09-05, 13:27
      - Is there something wrong with Halo 2? - red robber, 2015-09-05, 16:50
        
        +1 - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-09-05, 16:52
        
        +2 - cheapLEY, 2015-09-05, 19:51
        
        C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! - car15, 2015-09-05, 21:41
        
        C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! - cheapLEY, 2015-09-05, 21:47
        
        C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! - car15, 2015-09-05, 22:01
        
        Poor reading comprehension? - iconicbanana, 2015-09-05, 22:06
        
        Poor reading comprehension? - car15, 2015-09-05, 22:21
        
        Poor reading comprehension? - Avateur, 2015-09-05, 23:03
        
        Poor reading comprehension? - car15, 2015-09-05, 23:16
        
        Why would a simple statement of truth need nuance? - scarab, 2015-09-06, 04:29
        
        Why would a simple statement of truth need nuance? - iconicbanana, 2015-09-06, 11:39
        
        or throw a wobbly - scarab, 2015-09-06, 13:50
        
        Get bent. - iconicbanana, 2015-09-06, 17:09
        
        #shotsfired - car15, 2015-09-06, 17:15
        
        Poking holes in a strawman isn't shotsfired. - iconicbanana, 2015-09-06, 17:24
        
        Poking holes in a strawman isn't shotsfired. - car15, 2015-09-06, 17:36
        
        Calm down. All of you. - Xenos, 2015-09-06, 17:40
        
        Calm down. All of you. - car15, 2015-09-06, 17:54
        
        Calm down. All of you. - Kermit, 2015-09-06, 18:03
        
        Calm down. All of you. - car15, 2015-09-06, 18:05
        
        Calm down. All of you. - Xenos, 2015-09-06, 18:07
        
        Calm down. All of you. - car15, 2015-09-06, 18:13
        
        Calm down. All of you. - Xenos, 2015-09-06, 18:15
        
        Missed my point completely - Xenos, 2015-09-06, 18:04
        
        Missed my point completely - car15, 2015-09-06, 18:06
        
        Missed my point completely - Xenos, 2015-09-06, 18:17
        
        Missed my point completely - car15, 2015-09-06, 18:27
        
        Missed my point completely - Xenos, 2015-09-06, 18:33
        
        Missed my point completely - car15, 2015-09-06, 18:46
        
        Missed my point completely - Xenos, 2015-09-06, 18:56
        
        Missed my point completely - Leviathan, 2015-09-06, 19:09
        
        That picnic ... - Kermit, 2015-09-06, 19:20
        
        That picnic ... - breitzen, 2015-09-06, 21:52
        
        Missed my point completely - Leviathan, 2015-09-06, 18:19
        
        Missed my point completely - car15, 2015-09-06, 18:32
        
        Missed my point completely - Leviathan, 2015-09-06, 18:55
        
        Missed my point completely - General Vagueness, 2015-09-06, 19:20
        
        Calm down. All of you. - Joe Duplessie (SNIPE 316), 2015-09-09, 03:25
        
        Poking holes in a strawman isn't shotsfired. - scarab, 2015-09-06, 18:14
        
        Something to think about. - Leviathan, 2015-09-06, 18:43
        
        And this... - Claude Errera, 2015-09-06, 19:52
        
        C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! - Xenos, 2015-09-05, 22:11
        
        C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! - cheapLEY, 2015-09-05, 22:25
        
        C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! - car15, 2015-09-05, 23:01
        
        C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! - General Vagueness, 2015-09-05, 22:54
        
        C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! - car15, 2015-09-05, 22:59
        
        C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! - General Vagueness, 2015-09-05, 23:03
        
        Stop. Cool off. Be nice to each other. - Leviathan, 2015-09-06, 04:54
        
        Stop. Cool off. Be nice to each other. - General Vagueness, 2015-09-06, 15:14
        
        C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! - Kermit, 2015-09-06, 14:35
- Marty O’Donnell wins epic legal fight with former bosses - EffortlessFury, 2015-09-05, 16:17
  - Marty O’Donnell wins epic legal fight with former bosses - Xenos, 2015-09-05, 16:24
    - Marty O’Donnell wins epic legal fight with former bosses - Funkmon, 2015-09-05, 16:39
      - Marty O’Donnell wins epic legal fight with former bosses - Monochron, 2015-09-05, 17:20
        
        Marty O’Donnell wins epic legal fight with former bosses - dogcow, 2015-09-07, 14:22
  - Marty O’Donnell wins epic legal fight with former bosses - General Vagueness, 2015-09-05, 18:35
- Performance reviews - Monochron, 2015-09-05, 17:09
- Now I feel bad for liking all that Zep... - ZackDark, 2015-09-05, 18:29
  - Now I feel bad for liking all that Zep... - dogcow, 2015-09-07, 14:25
- Activision - Fuertisimo, 2015-09-05, 19:00
- I agree with Leviathan . . . - cheapLEY, 2015-09-05, 20:24
  - +1 - Claude Errera, 2015-09-05, 20:36
  - How dare you be level headed! - Xenos, 2015-09-05, 20:38
  - I agree with Leviathan . . . - CyberKN, 2015-09-05, 20:49
    - I agree with Leviathan . . . - cheapLEY, 2015-09-05, 21:13
      - I agree with Leviathan . . . - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-09-05, 22:34
        
        I agree with Leviathan . . . - cheapLEY, 2015-09-05, 23:20
        
        I agree with Leviathan . . . - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-09-06, 04:00
        
        I agree with Leviathan . . . - Cody Miller, 2015-09-06, 05:53
        
        I don't have all year ;) - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-09-06, 11:39
        
        I agree with Leviathan . . . - Kermit, 2015-09-06, 14:48
        
        I agree with Leviathan . . . - cheapLEY, 2015-09-06, 14:54
        
        I agree with Leviathan . . . - Kermit, 2015-09-06, 16:52
        
        I agree with Leviathan . . . - cheapLEY, 2015-09-06, 17:18
  - I agree with Leviathan . . . - General Vagueness, 2015-09-05, 20:53
    - I agree with Leviathan . . . - Xenos, 2015-09-05, 20:56
    - I agree with Leviathan . . . - cheapLEY, 2015-09-05, 21:23
  - I agree with Leviathan . . . - Fuertisimo, 2015-09-05, 21:26
    - I agree with Leviathan . . . - cheapLEY, 2015-09-05, 21:41
      - I agree with Leviathan . . . - Fuertisimo, 2015-09-05, 21:57
        
        I agree with Leviathan . . . - cheapLEY, 2015-09-05, 22:50
        
        I agree with Leviathan . . . - Fuertisimo, 2015-09-07, 17:18
        
        I agree with Leviathan . . . - General Vagueness, 2015-09-07, 20:08
        
        I agree with Leviathan . . . - Fuertisimo, 2015-09-07, 23:31
    - +1 - Jillybean, 2015-09-05, 21:58
      - Explain Bungie.net then. :P - Funkmon, 2015-09-06, 01:05
        
        Explain Bungie.net then. :P - Fuertisimo, 2015-09-06, 12:32
  - It is our business... - naturl selexion, 2015-09-05, 23:06
    - It is our business... - scarab, 2015-09-06, 05:02
      - It is our business... - Claude Errera, 2015-09-06, 17:12
        
        It is our business... - car15, 2015-09-06, 17:19
        
        It is our business... - Claude Errera, 2015-09-06, 19:51
  - What does move on mean in this context? - scarab, 2015-09-06, 04:43
    - It means . . . - cheapLEY, 2015-09-06, 14:50
      - It means . . . - General Vagueness, 2015-09-06, 15:24
- Yay for Marty! - dogcow, 2015-09-05, 23:10
- Marty O’Donnell wins epic legal fight with former bosses - car15, 2015-09-06, 00:13
  - This is starting to feel like gossip to me. - Leviathan, 2015-09-06, 04:45
  - Marty O’Donnell wins epic legal fight with former bosses - General Vagueness, 2015-09-06, 15:07
    - u mad? - car15, 2015-09-06, 16:53
      - u mad? - Kermit, 2015-09-06, 17:00
        
        u mad? - car15, 2015-09-06, 17:16
- Jaime Griesemer's take is wow - Avateur, 2015-09-06, 00:44
  - Jaime Griesemer's take is wow - car15, 2015-09-06, 01:14
    - Jaime Griesemer's take is wow - Fuertisimo, 2015-09-06, 12:29
      - There are lots of good people at bungie - breitzen, 2015-09-06, 12:51
        
        There are lots of good people at bungie - car15, 2015-09-06, 17:28
        
        There are lots of good people at bungie - Pyromancy, 2015-09-07, 13:11
        
        ...How is posting here supporting Bungie, exactly? - RaichuKFM, 2015-09-07, 13:13
        
        petetheduck works for Bungie, right? Let's ask him...? :) - Pyromancy, 2015-09-07, 13:27
        
        He does? Since when?! - Quirel, 2015-09-09, 04:05
        
        He doesn't - Avateur, 2015-09-09, 23:40
        
        ...How is posting here supporting Bungie, exactly? - Leviathan, 2015-09-07, 13:55
        
        ...How is posting here supporting Bungie, exactly? - Xenos, 2015-09-07, 14:12
        
        Yes. - Leviathan, 2015-09-06, 17:28
        
        Yes. - car15, 2015-09-06, 17:32
        
        Yes. - Xenos, 2015-09-06, 17:35
        
        Yes. - Leviathan, 2015-09-06, 17:48
        
        Yes. - Cody Miller, 2015-09-06, 19:28
        
        Yes. - Fuertisimo, 2015-09-07, 04:48
  - Jaime Griesemer's take is wow - FoolsRun, 2015-09-08, 10:33
- Good! - Kermit, 2015-09-06, 16:45
  - Everyone participating in this thread should read this. - Claude Errera, 2015-09-06, 17:22
    - Agreed. #Kermitismyhero - breitzen, 2015-09-06, 17:28
  - Well said. - Leviathan, 2015-09-06, 17:50
  - Well done, Kermit :) - Lawnmower172, 2015-09-06, 19:05
  - Good! - Cody Miller, 2015-09-06, 19:19
    - Good! - Kermit, 2015-09-06, 19:26
      - Good! - Avateur, 2015-09-06, 21:28
        
        Good! - Leviathan, 2015-09-06, 21:44
        
        Good! - General Vagueness, 2015-09-06, 22:48
        
        I bet that Sir Paul reads this forum, I should post more ;) - Pyromancy, 2015-09-07, 12:37
- Marty O’Donnell wins epic legal fight with former bosses - General Vagueness, 2015-09-12, 15:02
  - No, and I can say with confidence: they won't. - Xenos, 2015-09-12, 15:31
- Former bosses happy with ruling, not happy with Marty - General Vagueness, 2015-09-13, 02:27

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