Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. (Off-Topic)
So, I can totally accept if Rey doesn't jive with you as a character. That's fair, not all characters have to with everyone.
She’s just impossibly powerful for no good reason. It isn’t tied to her developing her character, inner strength, moral compass... Rey is perpetually unstoppable, and always right.
I don't want to reach my arm too far into this bag of cats. However, Rey is handled in EP7 nearly identically to the handling of Luke in EP4, to include the level of explanation of her capabilities. Her arc in EP8 explicitly mirrors that of Luke's in EP5. There is nothing in the movies to support the assertion that she is impossibly powerful, unstoppable, or always right anymore than there is to make the same judgment of Luke. In fact, there is less reasons to suggest that capabilities are without merit than there are for Luke.
there’s no echo of Luke or Obi-Wan’s or Yoda’s “power”. For all of the great Jedi, their power was a manifestation of their inner strength and moral character.
The only defining feature that carries through for the great Jedi in the SW Film Canon is that they are all failed. For every height of inner strength or moral character they are sundered by their hubris, emotional responses, selective ignorance, or some other extreme character flaw keeping them from success. This includes Rey.
I agree with most of the rest of your commentary. Not so much with the groundwork for a redemption arc for Ren, but that doesn't mean it will stop them from doing. Just like there is absolutely no reason to bring in a romantic subplot or superplot regarding Rey or Kylo (let alone both) but that won't necessarily stop them from doing it.
But Rey is more fleshed out as a central character than either Luke or Anakin (if you argue that the Prequels are about Obi-Wan it is much less clear) were by their second, possibly even the third.
Complete thread:
- Star Wars: Episode IX – Teaser -
INSANEdrive,
2019-04-12, 10:34
- Looks fun! -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-12, 10:54
- Looks fun! -
Cody Miller,
2019-04-12, 12:08
- Looks fun! -
Avateur,
2019-04-12, 20:58
- Looks fun! -
Malagate,
2019-04-16, 09:55
- Looks fun! - Cody Miller, 2019-04-16, 11:08
- Looks fun! -
Malagate,
2019-04-16, 09:55
- Looks fun! -
Avateur,
2019-04-12, 20:58
- The face I made when the name came up. - Harmanimus, 2019-04-12, 15:12
- Looks fun! -
Cody Miller,
2019-04-12, 12:08
- I'll maybe watch it for $1 on Redbox - Blackt1g3r, 2019-04-12, 11:15
- Thoughts. Cus' you know I have 'em. - INSANEdrive, 2019-04-12, 12:35
- Star Wars: Episode IX – Teaser -
ZackDark,
2019-04-12, 13:07
- Star Wars: Episode IX – Teaser - cheapLEY, 2019-04-12, 13:44
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
Korny,
2019-04-12, 13:14
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
Malagate,
2019-04-16, 10:02
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
marmot 1333,
2019-04-16, 10:09
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. - Malagate, 2019-04-16, 10:48
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
Korny,
2019-04-16, 10:15
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. - Malagate, 2019-04-16, 10:52
- But what about Midichlo..... </kills self> - Robot Chickens, 2019-04-16, 11:13
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-04-16, 11:33
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
EffortlessFury,
2019-04-16, 15:27
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-04-16, 17:22
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
Harmanimus,
2019-04-16, 23:43
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-04-17, 08:42
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-17, 09:26
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
Robot Chickens,
2019-04-17, 10:30
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-17, 10:54
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
Robot Chickens,
2019-04-17, 12:26
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-04-17, 12:36
- Agreed - Robot Chickens, 2019-04-17, 13:55
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-04-17, 12:36
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
Robot Chickens,
2019-04-17, 12:26
- Good points - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-04-17, 12:04
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-17, 10:54
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-04-17, 11:14
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. - cheapLEY, 2019-04-17, 11:19
- On updating a classic -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-04-17, 13:23
- I really love Alien 3. - Malagate, 2019-04-17, 13:31
- I really hate babies. 3 - Korny, 2019-04-17, 13:42
- On updating a classic -
Robot Chickens,
2019-04-17, 14:12
- On updating a classic - Harmanimus, 2019-04-17, 14:47
- On updating a classic -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-04-17, 16:44
- On updating a classic -
Cody Miller,
2019-04-17, 19:00
- On updating a classic -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-04-18, 07:28
- On updating a classic -
Cody Miller,
2019-04-18, 08:43
- On updating a classic -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-04-18, 12:59
- On updating a classic - Cody Miller, 2019-04-18, 14:51
- On updating a classic -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-04-18, 12:59
- On updating a classic -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-18, 11:04
- On updating a classic - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-04-18, 12:29
- On updating a classic -
Harmanimus,
2019-04-18, 12:33
- On updating a classic -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-18, 12:44
- I totally and completely agree - Avateur, 2019-04-18, 14:25
- Dad of War...? -
Claude Errera,
2019-04-18, 14:27
- The new God of War -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-18, 15:37
- The new God of War -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-18, 16:37
- Got it. Thanks! - Claude Errera, 2019-04-18, 16:57
- The new God of War is only $25 on PSN this week, BTW. - Korny, 2019-04-18, 17:17
- The new God of War -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-18, 16:37
- The new God of War -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-18, 15:37
- On updating a classic - Harmanimus, 2019-04-18, 14:28
- On updating a classic -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-18, 12:44
- On updating a classic -
Cody Miller,
2019-04-18, 08:43
- On updating a classic -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-04-18, 07:28
- On updating a classic -
Cody Miller,
2019-04-17, 19:00
- On updating a classic -
Cody Miller,
2019-04-17, 14:33
- On updating a classic -
Harmanimus,
2019-04-17, 14:49
- +1 - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-04-18, 06:42
- On updating a classic -
Avateur,
2019-04-18, 14:41
- On updating a classic -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-18, 16:52
- On updating a classic -
Avateur,
2019-04-19, 18:08
- On updating a classic -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-19, 19:17
- On updating a classic -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-19, 19:50
- On updating a classic -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-19, 20:48
- On updating a classic -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-19, 21:20
- On updating a classic -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-20, 11:25
- On updating a classic -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-20, 12:10
- The Intent Behind The Symbols -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-20, 12:47
- The Intent Behind The Symbols - cheapLEY, 2019-04-20, 15:04
- The Intent Behind The Symbols -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-20, 12:47
- On updating a classic -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-20, 12:10
- On updating a classic -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-20, 11:25
- Hellblade -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-25, 19:41
- Hellblade - Ragashingo, 2019-04-25, 20:41
- On updating a classic -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-19, 21:20
- On updating a classic -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-19, 20:48
- On updating a classic -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-19, 19:50
- On updating a classic -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-19, 19:17
- On updating a classic -
Avateur,
2019-04-19, 18:08
- On updating a classic -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-18, 16:52
- On updating a classic -
Harmanimus,
2019-04-17, 14:49
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
Robot Chickens,
2019-04-17, 10:30
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
Harmanimus,
2019-04-17, 09:55
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-18, 20:05
- +10000000 - breitzen, 2019-04-19, 10:30
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-04-19, 13:49
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
Kermit,
2019-05-06, 11:01
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-05-06, 11:29
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
Kermit,
2019-05-06, 12:43
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-05-06, 12:52
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. - cheapLEY, 2019-05-06, 16:32
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
Kermit,
2019-05-06, 17:22
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
cheapLEY,
2019-05-06, 17:27
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-05-06, 17:38
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
Kermit,
2019-05-06, 17:49
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
cheapLEY,
2019-05-06, 17:56
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
Avateur,
2019-05-07, 01:46
- Different kinds of movies serve different purposes -
Kermit,
2019-05-07, 15:38
- Different kinds of movies serve different purposes -
kidtsunami,
2019-05-07, 16:53
- Different kinds of movies serve different purposes -
Kermit,
2019-05-07, 18:11
- Different kinds of movies serve different purposes -
Cody Miller,
2019-05-07, 19:34
- Ha, fair enough - kidtsunami, 2019-05-08, 05:04
- Different kinds of movies serve different purposes -
Cody Miller,
2019-05-07, 19:34
- Different kinds of movies serve different purposes -
Kermit,
2019-05-07, 18:11
- Different kinds of movies serve different purposes -
Cody Miller,
2019-05-07, 17:52
- Ok - Kermit, 2019-05-07, 17:58
- Different kinds of movies serve different purposes -
kidtsunami,
2019-05-07, 16:53
- Different kinds of movies serve different purposes -
Kermit,
2019-05-07, 15:38
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
Avateur,
2019-05-07, 01:46
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. - MacAddictXIV, 2019-05-07, 07:31
- An elitist film for elitists? -
kidtsunami,
2019-05-07, 09:36
- An elitist film for elitists? - Cody Miller, 2019-05-07, 09:44
- An elitist film for elitists? -
Kermit,
2019-05-07, 09:45
- An elitist film for elitists? -
Cody Miller,
2019-05-07, 09:49
- An elitist film for elitists? -
Kermit,
2019-05-07, 10:08
- An elitist film for elitists? -
Cody Miller,
2019-05-07, 10:26
- An elitist film for elitists? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-05-07, 12:06
- An elitist film for elitists? - kidtsunami, 2019-05-07, 12:50
- An elitist film for elitists? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-05-07, 12:06
- An elitist film for elitists? -
Cody Miller,
2019-05-07, 10:26
- An elitist film for elitists? -
Kermit,
2019-05-07, 10:08
- An elitist film for elitists? -
kidtsunami,
2019-05-07, 11:12
- An elitist film for elitists? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-05-07, 12:15
- An elitist film for elitists? - kidtsunami, 2019-05-07, 12:31
- An elitist film for elitists? -
Kermit,
2019-05-07, 12:16
- An elitist film for elitists? -
kidtsunami,
2019-05-07, 12:43
- An elitist film for elitists? -
Kermit,
2019-05-07, 13:06
- An elitist film for elitists? -
kidtsunami,
2019-05-07, 13:33
- An elitist film for elitists? -
cheapLEY,
2019-05-07, 16:34
- An elitist film for elitists? -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-05-08, 08:26
- An elitist film for elitists? -
Kermit,
2019-05-08, 08:36
- An elitist film for elitists? -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-05-08, 08:42
- An elitist film for elitists? -
Kermit,
2019-05-08, 11:29
- An elitist film for elitists? -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-05-09, 06:38
- An elitist film for elitists? - Kermit, 2019-05-09, 08:03
- An elitist film for elitists? -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-05-09, 06:38
- An elitist film for elitists? -
Kermit,
2019-05-08, 11:29
- An elitist film for elitists? -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-05-08, 08:42
- An elitist film for elitists? -
Kermit,
2019-05-08, 08:36
- An elitist film for elitists? -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-05-08, 08:26
- An elitist film for elitists? -
cheapLEY,
2019-05-07, 16:34
- An elitist film for elitists? -
kidtsunami,
2019-05-07, 13:33
- An elitist film for elitists? -
Kermit,
2019-05-07, 13:06
- An elitist film for elitists? -
kidtsunami,
2019-05-07, 12:43
- An elitist film for elitists? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-05-07, 12:15
- An elitist film for elitists? -
Cody Miller,
2019-05-07, 09:49
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
Cody Miller,
2019-05-07, 09:46
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
Claude Errera,
2019-05-07, 10:06
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. - Cody Miller, 2019-05-07, 10:27
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
Claude Errera,
2019-05-07, 10:06
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
cheapLEY,
2019-05-06, 17:56
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
Cody Miller,
2019-05-07, 09:56
- #Codyisright - Korny, 2019-05-07, 12:04
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
cheapLEY,
2019-05-06, 17:27
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-05-06, 12:52
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
Kermit,
2019-05-06, 12:43
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
MacAddictXIV,
2019-05-06, 11:29
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-18, 20:05
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-18, 19:55
- +1 Good Post -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-18, 20:04
- +1 Good Post - Ragashingo, 2019-04-20, 22:12
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-04-20, 11:38
- Literally nothing?? -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-20, 12:20
- Yes, literally nothing. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-04-20, 20:30
- Yes, literally nothing. -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-20, 21:10
- Yes, literally nothing. -
Harmanimus,
2019-04-20, 21:31
- Yes, literally nothing. - Ragashingo, 2019-04-20, 22:11
- +1 - CruelLEGACEY, 2019-04-22, 02:15
- Yes, literally nothing. -
Harmanimus,
2019-04-20, 21:31
- Yes, literally nothing. -
Harmanimus,
2019-04-20, 21:34
- Yes, literally nothing. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-04-22, 00:22
- Yes, literally nothing. -
Harmanimus,
2019-04-22, 11:49
- Yes, literally nothing. -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-22, 11:58
- ^ +1 to these two posts - Robot Chickens, 2019-04-22, 12:02
- Yes, literally nothing. -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-22, 11:58
- Yes, literally nothing. -
Harmanimus,
2019-04-22, 11:49
- Yes, literally nothing. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-04-22, 00:22
- Yes, literally nothing. -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-20, 21:59
- Wait. -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-21, 08:05
- Yes, wait. -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-21, 09:33
- Yes, wait. -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-21, 10:07
- Yes, wait. -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-21, 10:39
- Yes, wait. - cheapLEY, 2019-04-21, 11:01
- Ok, I'm going to give this one more try -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-04-22, 02:01
- Ok, I'm going to give this one more try - Ragashingo, 2019-04-22, 19:28
- Side note, from someone with no skin in this game -
Claude Errera,
2019-04-22, 14:31
- Side note, from someone with no skin in this game -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-22, 14:59
- Side note, from someone with no skin in this game -
Claude Errera,
2019-04-22, 15:15
- Side note, from someone with no skin in this game - Ragashingo, 2019-04-22, 16:07
- Side note, from someone with no skin in this game -
Claude Errera,
2019-04-22, 15:15
- Side note, from someone with no skin in this game -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-22, 14:59
- Yes, wait. -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-21, 10:39
- Yes, wait. - Cody Miller, 2019-05-07, 09:59
- Yes, wait. -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-21, 10:07
- Yes, wait. -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-21, 09:33
- Wait. -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-21, 08:05
- Yes, literally nothing. -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-20, 21:10
- Hey analyze this fight next -
Cody Miller,
2019-04-21, 09:30
- Ha. I totally thought about using it as an example! :) - Ragashingo, 2019-04-21, 09:33
- Yes, literally nothing. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-04-20, 20:30
- Literally nothing?? -
Ragashingo,
2019-04-20, 12:20
- +1 Good Post -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-18, 20:04
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-17, 09:26
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-04-17, 08:42
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
Harmanimus,
2019-04-16, 23:43
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-04-16, 17:22
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. - Cody Miller, 2019-04-16, 17:02
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
EffortlessFury,
2019-04-16, 15:27
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
marmot 1333,
2019-04-16, 10:09
- Looks kind of dumb, so it's very Star Wars alright. -
Malagate,
2019-04-16, 10:02
- Star Wars: Episode IX – Teaser -
ManKitten,
2019-04-12, 13:23
- reylo! - kidtsunami, 2019-04-12, 13:45
- I’ll watch it - Oholiab, 2019-04-12, 20:12
- Star Wars: Episode IX – Teaser - metwaf100, 2019-04-13, 03:03
- Respawn's Jedi: The Fallen Order trailer -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-13, 15:44
- Respawn's Jedi: The Fallen Order trailer -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-04-13, 18:40
- Respawn's Jedi: The Fallen Order trailer - Ragashingo, 2019-04-14, 01:19
- As long as we're just posting Star Wars stuff... - stabbim, 2019-04-16, 14:18
- Respawn's Jedi: The Fallen Order trailer -
CruelLEGACEY,
2019-04-13, 18:40
- It's just a teaser. But I like what I see. - breitzen, 2019-04-13, 18:27
- Star Wars: The Last Post - Kermit, 2019-04-22, 12:48
- Star Wars: The Rise Of ThreadWalker -
kidtsunami,
2019-04-23, 12:09
- Star Wars: The Rise Of ThreadWalker -
Cody Miller,
2019-04-23, 12:56
- Star Wars: The Rise Of ThreadWalker - kidtsunami, 2019-04-24, 06:52
- Star Wars: The Rise Of ThreadWalker -
Cody Miller,
2019-04-23, 12:56
- Oh hey. People are still talking in that StarWars Thread... - INSANEdrive, 2019-05-06, 13:22
- Looks fun! -
cheapLEY,
2019-04-12, 10:54