Speaking of Restaurant analogies and Free To Play... (Destiny)

by MacAddictXIV , Seattle WA, Friday, January 05, 2018, 08:43 (2457 days ago) @ Korny

So here's where Bungie's patented "We're Listening"™ really bugs me, even though I don't dislike Eververse. They acknowledged, before Eververse was released, that it would not have a negative impact on the game. That it would be an optional market on the side. That it would just be for people who wanted to help fund the Live team, and would give us cosmetic items for the sake of expression.

But they frog-in-potted players long enough that they've all but gone back on that initial promise, by integrating Everse deeply into the game's loot foundation.

I feel like we really need to separate Eververs and MTX. Because they are not the same thing. MTX's are sold by Eververse but that is also not all she sells. With that in mind let me continue.

So Bungie acknowledged 3 things about Eververse:
1. It would not be a negative impact on the game
I for one can say that is really hard to quantify. That is purely based on how people feel about the game apart from MTX's. I personally consider MTX's a negative impact if when other people buy MTX's that it impacts my playing of the game. In this case it does not. In fact, with the boons that you can buy, it actually makes it more positive if I'm playing with someone who has one on! Also, the other loot she has is also not a negative.

2. That it would be an optional market on the side.
Still true. I'm by no means required to use it to keep up or progress through the game.

3. That it would just be for people who wanted to help fund the Live team, and would give us cosmetic items for the sake of expression.
Also true.

Fans didn't like that, fans complained, and what did we get? Bungie said "We're listening", then had even more of the game's content getting locked into Eververse, and we had to pay for the new meal on top of that. Players have erupted in anger, and Bungie's response so far is... "We're listening".

wait wait wait, why do people keep saying that items from Eververse are "locked"? they are no more locked than any other item in destiny to my knowledge. In fact, I would argue that they are even easier to get because you can buy some of the stuff via dust instead of random drops. The only difference is that there is a bigger loot table, so when you random stuff you have less chance of getting the exact item you want.

DE had that problem prioritized and resolved in a matter of days, and it was an optional cosmetic for an optional pet.

Listening doesn't always mean doing something. Because there are times Bungie has blindly listened to the community and done things I don't necessarily approve of.