Also, to clarify: (Destiny)

by ProbablyLast, Tuesday, July 18, 2017, 21:26 (2480 days ago) @ Cody Miller

I don't give a rat's ass about PvP in Destiny anymore, but when "Balance" changes carry over to the PvE side of things

One could say the whole thing with moving all the specials to the heavy and giving you two primaries is based on the same thing. Were special weapons ever a problem in PvE?

They used to be fun to use. Which definitely seems like something Bingle considers a problem.

Also, PvP balancing has been negatively impacting PvE play since the first patch in Destiny. Can't really be surprised anymore.

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So, how is it? - dogcow, 2017-07-18, 10:19
- So, how is it? - Korny, 2017-07-18, 10:25
  - So, how is it? - Vortech, 2017-07-18, 10:50
  - nice! - Schedonnardus, 2017-07-18, 11:08
  - Hype for 2 - Blackt1g3r, 2017-07-18, 11:13
- Xenos is streaming! - marmot 1333, 2017-07-18, 11:06
  - Xenos is streaming.....orbit - Schedonnardus, 2017-07-18, 11:12
- Initial impressions are... bad. - CyberKN, 2017-07-18, 11:18
  - Noooooo - Blackt1g3r, 2017-07-18, 11:24
    - Noooooo - CyberKN, 2017-07-18, 11:43
      - good, shoulder charge was bad - Schedonnardus, 2017-07-18, 11:44
        
        MK.44 Stand Asides were my go-to Y1 Titan Crucible exotic... - Korny, 2017-07-18, 11:52
        
        MK.44 Stand Asides were my go-to Y1 Titan Crucible exotic... - CyberKN, 2017-07-18, 12:13
        
        MK.44 Stand Asides were my go-to Y1 Titan Crucible exotic... - Korny, 2017-07-18, 12:23
        
        MK.44 Stand Asides were my go-to Y1 Titan Crucible exotic... - CyberKN, 2017-07-18, 12:39
        
        Well, that bodes well... - ZackDark, 2017-07-18, 14:41
      - Noooooo - Cody Miller, 2017-07-18, 11:46
  - Lets be honest. Shoulder charge was OP. - UnrealCh13f, 2017-07-18, 12:42
    - Agreed - TheeChaos, 2017-07-18, 12:49
    - I dispute this. - CyberKN, 2017-07-18, 12:52
      - False - unoudid, 2017-07-18, 13:02
        
        False - CyberKN, 2017-07-18, 13:05
        
        False - squidnh3, 2017-07-18, 13:09
        
        Finally, a good point. - CyberKN, 2017-07-18, 13:11
        
        Finally, a good point. - unoudid, 2017-07-18, 13:14
        
        Word. - BeardFade, 2017-07-18, 13:23
        
        Also, to clarify: - CyberKN, 2017-07-18, 13:15
        
        Also, to clarify: - Cody Miller, 2017-07-18, 13:43
        
        Also, to clarify: - unoudid, 2017-07-18, 14:12
        
        Also, to clarify: - ProbablyLast, 2017-07-18, 21:26
        
        False - Cody Miller, 2017-07-18, 13:41
      - Uh-Uh. - Morpheus, 2017-07-18, 15:27
        
        Uh-Uh. - CyberKN, 2017-07-18, 19:53
        
        Uh-Uh. - Morpheus, 2017-07-19, 11:51
        
        Hell, Even In Real Life. - Morpheus, 2017-07-19, 12:17
        
        Oh, give me a break. - CyberKN, 2017-07-19, 12:46
        
        Break me off a pice of that Kit Kat bar... - Korny, 2017-07-19, 14:07
        
        Oh, give me a break. - dogcow, 2017-07-19, 14:12
        
        Oh, give me a break. - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-07-21, 05:50
        
        Hey Cyber! - Morpheus, 2017-08-02, 23:42
        
        Hey Cyber! - Vortech, 2017-08-03, 08:06
        
        Hey Cyber! - Morpheus, 2017-08-03, 09:20
        
        Hey Cyber! - Vortech, 2017-08-03, 11:41
        
        Hey Cyber! - Robot Chickens, 2017-08-03, 12:55
        
        This. - Morpheus, 2017-08-03, 13:03
        
        Eh. - Claude Errera, 2017-08-03, 14:06
        
        Eh. - Robot Chickens, 2017-08-03, 15:17
        
        "Stationary position" everyone - CyberKN, 2017-08-03, 12:30
        
        "Not Sprinting" Position, Everybody! - Morpheus, 2017-08-03, 13:11
        
        That's not what you said at all. - CyberKN, 2017-08-03, 15:34
        
        Ready For The Best Part? - Morpheus, 2017-08-03, 17:45
        
        Ready For The Best Part? - Claude Errera, 2017-08-03, 22:00
        
        Oh Definitely. - Morpheus, 2017-08-04, 01:08
        
        I want to play your version of the game. - ProbablyLast, 2017-07-18, 21:23
        
        Drop some acid, find an old 28.8k modem, and you're in. - Funkmon, 2017-07-18, 22:32
        
        Instructions Unclear - Cody Miller, 2017-07-18, 22:35
        
        You Got It! - Morpheus, 2017-07-19, 11:57
        
        Irony? - Blackt1g3r, 2017-07-19, 07:25
        
        Not Strongest, Longest. - Morpheus, 2017-07-19, 12:01
        
        Not Strongest, Longest. - Harmanimus, 2017-07-19, 14:01
  - Initial impressions are... bad. - ManKitten, 2017-07-18, 13:27
    - I was talking from a Purely PvE perspective. - CyberKN, 2017-07-18, 13:51
    - Initial impressions are... bad. - General Battuta, 2017-07-18, 14:23
      - ^ - Funkmon, 2017-07-18, 14:36
  - Initial impressions (warlock) - slycrel, 2017-07-18, 13:29
  - Could this be due to low level and dumpy white guns? - Funkmon, 2017-07-18, 14:37
    - Could this be due to low level and dumpy white guns? - Harmanimus, 2017-07-18, 14:58
      - Uh oh. - Funkmon, 2017-07-18, 15:20
    - Everything is Legen....wait for it.... - ChrisTheeCrappy, 2017-07-18, 14:58
      - I love you even more now. - ProbablyLast, 2017-07-18, 15:21
  - Initial impressions are... good. - kidtsunami, 2017-07-18, 15:36
    - Initial impressions are... good. - Harmanimus, 2017-07-18, 16:33
- Slower [Titan Class comments] - Harmanimus, 2017-07-18, 14:25
  - [Hunter Class comments] - Harmanimus, 2017-07-19, 00:10
    - [Warlock Class/General comments] *Possible Spoilers* /long/ - Harmanimus, 2017-07-20, 01:09
      - [Warlock Class/General comments] *Possible Spoilers* /long/ - DiscipleN2k, 2017-07-20, 07:41
        
        [Warlock Class/General comments] *Possible Spoilers* /long/ - dogcow, 2017-07-20, 07:46
        
        Hedge beat us both - DiscipleN2k, 2017-07-20, 07:49
      - [Warlock Class/General comments] McCartney Lives in D2 - dogcow, 2017-07-20, 07:45
      - [Warlock Class/General comments] *Possible Spoilers* /long/ - stabbim, 2017-07-21, 08:36
        
        [Warlock Class/General comments] *Possible Spoilers* /long/ - Harmanimus, 2017-07-21, 09:52
        
        [Warlock Class/General comments] *Possible Spoilers* /long/ - stabbim, 2017-07-21, 11:47
      - [Additional PvE comments] - Harmanimus, 2017-07-22, 01:08
- You mean the wait till Friday? - Cody Miller, 2017-07-18, 16:54
- Overall I'm really liking it. - Xenos, 2017-07-18, 17:30
- Pretty dang buggy. - Korny, 2017-07-18, 17:45
  - Pretty dang buggy. - CaneCutter, 2017-07-18, 22:00
  - Will third nausea. I think it was the fire movements. - CommandrCleavage, 2017-07-19, 06:11
  - Pretty dang buggy. - Kalamari, 2017-07-19, 07:34
    - Pretty dang buggy. - CommandrCleavage, 2017-07-19, 08:30
  - I had to play it twice - Schedonnardus, 2017-07-20, 06:34
    - I had to play it twice - Korny, 2017-07-20, 08:30
- Destiny 2: Nerf everything edition. - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-07-18, 18:39
  - Suggested light is 210, we are at 200, explains some of it. - slycrel, 2017-07-18, 18:52
    - good point. Why would they do that, though? - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-07-19, 09:49
      - Test Light Level Balancing? - TheeChaos, 2017-07-19, 10:48
  - Seems appropriate with the lost light and starting over? - Vortech, 2017-07-19, 10:04
- Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-07-18, 20:11
  - Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) - CyberKN, 2017-07-18, 20:17
    - Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) - Harmanimus, 2017-07-18, 22:22
      - Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) - Vortech, 2017-07-19, 10:07
        
        Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) - Chappy, 2017-07-20, 08:35
        
        Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) - Vortech, 2017-07-20, 09:47
  - Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) - Vortech, 2017-07-19, 10:06
  - Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) - Kahzgul, 2017-07-19, 21:03
    - Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) - Blackt1g3r, 2017-07-20, 07:11
    - Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) - stabbim, 2017-07-25, 08:15
      - Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) - Kermit, 2017-07-25, 10:18
- What time do Xbox Servers go up? - INSANEdrive, 2017-07-18, 21:15
  - Don't know. Probably 10am PST - CougRon, 2017-07-18, 21:20
  - Supposedly 10 AM PT - Blackt1g3r, 2017-07-19, 07:31
- So, how is it? - CommandrCleavage, 2017-07-19, 06:31
  - So, how is it? - dogcow, 2017-07-19, 07:49
    - So, how is it? - CommandrCleavage, 2017-07-19, 08:40
      - Tower Battle - Firefight? - dogcow, 2017-07-19, 08:51
      - Replay Homecoming mission - Blackt1g3r, 2017-07-19, 09:39
        
        Replay Homecoming mission - dogcow, 2017-07-19, 09:59
        
        Replay Homecoming mission - Vortech, 2017-07-19, 10:12
        
        It appears that each class always has the same loadout. - slycrel, 2017-07-19, 13:16
        
        It appears that each class always has the same loadout. - Ragashingo, 2017-07-19, 14:47
        
        You can change your loadout - Kahzgul, 2017-07-19, 21:10
    - So, how is it? - Vortech, 2017-07-19, 10:10
      - So, how is it? - Korny, 2017-07-19, 10:45
        
        So, how is it? - TheeChaos, 2017-07-19, 10:49
        
        So, how is it? - Korny, 2017-07-19, 11:13
        
        So, how is it? - TheeChaos, 2017-07-19, 11:18
        
        So, how is it? - Korny, 2017-07-19, 11:20
        
        XD - TheeChaos, 2017-07-19, 11:22
        
        So, how is it? - Cody Miller, 2017-07-19, 11:22
        
        So, how is it? - Revenant1988, 2017-07-19, 13:24
        
        So, how is it? - Cody Miller, 2017-07-19, 13:34
        
        So, how is it? - biggy, 2017-07-19, 15:59
        
        ^*NM*Post *NM* - Pyromancy, 2017-07-19, 21:37
- More thoughts, after a day to think about it - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-07-19, 13:38
  - I'll eat my AoT shirt if cooldowns stay as they are. - Ragashingo, 2017-07-19, 14:57
  - More thoughts, after a day to think about it - Vortech, 2017-07-19, 15:48
    - More thoughts, after a day to think about it - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-07-19, 17:12
  - More thoughts, after a day to think about it - EffortlessFury, 2017-07-20, 09:20
    - More thoughts, after a day to think about it - Xenos, 2017-07-20, 09:31
- Regarding Slow Cooldowns - Blackt1g3r, 2017-07-19, 14:38
  - Regarding Slow Cooldowns - Ragashingo, 2017-07-19, 15:02
  - Regarding Slow Cooldowns - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-07-19, 15:54
    - Regarding Slow Cooldowns - Cody Miller, 2017-07-19, 16:34
      - Regarding Slow Cooldowns - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-07-19, 17:09
  - Regarding Slow Cooldowns - Harmanimus, 2017-07-19, 16:26
  - It also makes some special abilities really strong - Kahzgul, 2017-07-19, 21:11
- So, how is it? - Hedgemony, 2017-07-19, 19:02
  - AHHHH! A Ghost! - Revenant1988, 2017-07-19, 19:25
  - Did you check out the jukebox? - Kahzgul, 2017-07-19, 20:53
    - Did you check out the jukebox? - Kermit, 2017-07-20, 09:38
  - Hedge!?! Did you see this? *Poss. SP?* - Pyromancy, 2017-07-19, 21:27
    - Hedge!?! Did you see this? *Poss. SP?* - Hedgemony, 2017-07-21, 08:18
  - So, how is it? - dogcow, 2017-07-20, 07:57
- So, how is it? - ProbablyLast, 2017-07-19, 19:26
  - I definitely missed a patrol/exploration mode, but... - Kahzgul, 2017-07-19, 21:12
    - Was quite fun to explore. :) - Claude Errera, 2017-07-19, 22:09
      - You think we could matchmake 2 DBO teams toExplore Crucible? - Pyromancy, 2017-07-20, 11:41
        
        Would probably be pretty hard - Claude Errera, 2017-07-20, 11:57
    - Yeah, it's a nice area. - ProbablyLast, 2017-07-20, 10:12
- Explore Inverted Spire. - DEEP_NNN, 2017-07-19, 20:46
  - Man cannon loop is top 2 activity in beta. We did it 3 times - Funkmon, 2017-07-20, 08:05
- I found the radar colours lacking. - DEEP_NNN, 2017-07-20, 05:38
- My Thoughts - Blackt1g3r, 2017-07-20, 06:58
- For those talking about recharge rates - Xenos, 2017-07-20, 08:16
  - For those talking about recharge rates - Cody Miller, 2017-07-20, 09:30
  - For those talking about recharge rates - Kermit, 2017-07-20, 09:33
    - For those talking about recharge rates - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-07-20, 14:53
      - For those talking about recharge rates - Blackt1g3r, 2017-07-20, 15:25
      - For those talking about recharge rates - Xenos, 2017-07-20, 16:18
        
        For those talking about recharge rates - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-07-20, 17:04
        
        For those talking about recharge rates - Cody Miller, 2017-07-21, 14:32
        
        For those talking about recharge rates - Harmanimus, 2017-07-21, 15:35
  - For those talking about recharge rates - biggy, 2017-07-20, 16:47
    - For those talking about recharge rates - Xenos, 2017-07-20, 16:50
  - For those talking about recharge rates - Harmanimus, 2017-07-20, 17:03
    - For those talking about recharge rates - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-07-20, 17:11
      - For those talking about recharge rates - Ragashingo, 2017-07-20, 18:11
        
        For those talking about recharge rates - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-07-20, 18:23
        
        For those talking about recharge rates - Blackt1g3r, 2017-07-20, 21:41
        
        For those talking about recharge rates - Xenos, 2017-07-21, 07:34
        
        For those talking about recharge rates - Harmanimus, 2017-07-21, 09:54
- Looks & Feels...Weird - squidnh3, 2017-07-20, 10:47
  - Looks & Feels...Weird - Korny, 2017-07-20, 11:03
    - Looks & Feels...Weird - Harmanimus, 2017-07-20, 11:06
      - Looks & Feels...Weird - Korny, 2017-07-21, 19:52
      - Looks & Feels...Weird - narcogen, 2017-07-21, 20:05
  - Looks & Feels...Weird - biggy, 2017-07-20, 16:42
  - Oh! - INSANEdrive, 2017-07-20, 22:56
    - Oh! - dogcow, 2017-07-21, 08:17
  - Played 4 hours as warlock. Looks the same, feels the same. - Funkmon, 2017-07-21, 07:06
- Greg Cote voice "Lovin' It" - ManKitten, 2017-07-20, 12:34
- Overall - Kermit, 2017-07-21, 10:54
  - Overall - Cody Miller, 2017-07-21, 14:19
    - Overall - Kermit, 2017-07-21, 15:05
  - Overall - Avateur, 2017-07-21, 22:39
    - Overall - Cody Miller, 2017-07-21, 22:55
      - Overall - Avateur, 2017-07-21, 23:00
        
        Overall - Cody Miller, 2017-07-21, 23:01
        
        Overall - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-07-22, 06:52
    - Overall - Ragashingo, 2017-07-22, 08:48
      - Overall - Cody Miller, 2017-07-22, 11:41
        
        Overall - Korny, 2017-07-22, 12:30
        
        Overall - Cody Miller, 2017-07-22, 20:59
- On Storytelling - Cody Miller, 2017-07-21, 15:05
  - On Storytelling - Kermit, 2017-07-21, 15:21
    - On Storytelling - Harmanimus, 2017-07-21, 15:32
      - On Storytelling - Cody Miller, 2017-07-21, 15:35
        
        On Storytelling - Harmanimus, 2017-07-21, 15:42
        
        On Storytelling - narcogen, 2017-07-21, 20:04
        
        On Storytelling - Cody Miller, 2017-07-21, 22:13
        
        +1 - Kermit, 2017-07-24, 09:06
        
        +1 - Cody Miller, 2017-07-24, 23:34
        
        +1 - Kermit, 2017-07-27, 12:55
        
        +1 - Cody Miller, 2017-07-27, 13:06
        
        +1 - Kermit, 2017-07-27, 13:37
        
        +1 - Cody Miller, 2017-07-27, 13:51
        
        +1 - Kermit, 2017-07-27, 14:36
        
        +1 - Kermit, 2017-07-27, 14:57
        
        +1 - Cody Miller, 2017-07-27, 16:21
        
        +1 - Kermit, 2017-07-27, 17:11
        
        +1 - Cody Miller, 2017-07-27, 18:19
        
        +1 - Kermit, 2017-07-27, 18:30
        
        +1 - Cody Miller, 2017-07-27, 18:40
        
        +1 - Kermit, 2017-07-27, 19:05
        
        +1 - Cody Miller, 2017-07-27, 19:08
        
        Agreed. - Kermit, 2017-07-28, 08:23
        
        +1 - Ragashingo, 2017-07-27, 15:08
        
        +1 - Cody Miller, 2017-07-27, 18:48
        
        +1 - Ragashingo, 2017-07-27, 20:05
        
        +1 - Avateur, 2017-07-28, 01:14
        
        On Storytelling - DEEP_NNN, 2017-07-22, 06:45
      - On Storytelling - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-07-21, 16:39
        
        On Storytelling - Cody Miller, 2017-07-21, 16:43
        
        On Storytelling - Harmanimus, 2017-07-21, 16:47
        
        Unfortunately, I agree - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-07-21, 17:40
    - On Storytelling - Cody Miller, 2017-07-21, 15:38
  - On Storytelling - Ragashingo, 2017-07-21, 16:23
- Cody's Hype Level - Cody Miller, 2017-07-21, 22:50
  - Nailed It. - DEEP_NNN, 2017-07-22, 06:50
  - Cody's Hype Level - Pretty close to my feelings. - dogcow, 2017-07-24, 08:46

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