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For those talking about recharge rates (Destiny)
I totally get your complaint, and I think there are several people that agree with you, but I do have to point out you're talking about something like single digit percentages of the time you'll probably end up playing Destiny 2. I played well over 1200 hours of Destiny 1 and maybe 40 of that, at most, was spent at a point where I didn't have enhanced grenade and melee recharge rates.
Like I said, not saying you're wrong, but you're most likely going to even forget about the time it takes to improve your build.
(I personally like the progression part at the beginning, makes it more interesting for that time period than just "here's all your powers and everything is maxed out!")
That's a very good and fair point. In the grand scheme of things, the time it takes to level up my characters is minor relative to the amount of time I'm likely to spend playing D2. But having my first experience with the campaign dragged down by what is IMO a somewhat dull version of Destiny's combat does tarnish the experience for me in a significant, if short, way.
My first time through a game is usually when I'm the most absorbed by it. It's all new to me, so I'm totally taken in by everything I'm seeing and doing. As I replay the game, it becomes more about social interactions with friends, or mastering the game on a mechanical level. But the real heart and soul of the story missions falls into the background, because I've already seen it all.
I would really love to be able to jump into Destiny 2 and have an initial experience that blows me away on all levels the way I felt playing Halo CE or Reach, or Mass Effect 2, The Last of Us, Titanfall 2, etc. I love it so much when the gameplay mechanics reinforce the emotional beats of the story. So many of Halo 1 - Reach's story beats land as well as they do because the player's adrenalin is pumping, or their nerves are frazzled, or they're feeling triumphant as a result of the combat scenario they just experienced. Destiny 1 failed to deliver that kind of experience for me, because until I maxed out my characters, I found the combat too dull to illicit those feelings. The Mission and Strike in the Destiny 2 Beta land even further away from what I'm hoping for.
So I'm quite sure that I'll end up having a blast with "Destiny 2: the social game that you play with friends while being completely detached from the game world or plot". I'm just disappointed that it's looking like I might not enjoy "Destiny 2: The gripping, dramatic sci-fi/fantasy adventure story" that will be my first playthrough,
Complete thread:
- So, how is it? -
dogcow,
2017-07-18, 10:19
- So, how is it? -
Korny,
2017-07-18, 10:25
- So, how is it? - Vortech, 2017-07-18, 10:50
- nice! - Schedonnardus, 2017-07-18, 11:08
- Hype for 2 - Blackt1g3r, 2017-07-18, 11:13
- Xenos is streaming! -
marmot 1333,
2017-07-18, 11:06
- Xenos is streaming.....orbit
- Schedonnardus, 2017-07-18, 11:12
- Xenos is streaming.....orbit
- Initial impressions are... bad. -
CyberKN,
2017-07-18, 11:18
- Noooooo -
Blackt1g3r,
2017-07-18, 11:24
- Noooooo -
CyberKN,
2017-07-18, 11:43
- good, shoulder charge was bad
- Schedonnardus, 2017-07-18, 11:44
- MK.44 Stand Asides were my go-to Y1 Titan Crucible exotic... -
Korny,
2017-07-18, 11:52
- MK.44 Stand Asides were my go-to Y1 Titan Crucible exotic... -
CyberKN,
2017-07-18, 12:13
- MK.44 Stand Asides were my go-to Y1 Titan Crucible exotic... -
Korny,
2017-07-18, 12:23
- MK.44 Stand Asides were my go-to Y1 Titan Crucible exotic... -
CyberKN,
2017-07-18, 12:39
- Well, that bodes well...
- ZackDark, 2017-07-18, 14:41
- Well, that bodes well...
- MK.44 Stand Asides were my go-to Y1 Titan Crucible exotic... -
CyberKN,
2017-07-18, 12:39
- MK.44 Stand Asides were my go-to Y1 Titan Crucible exotic... -
Korny,
2017-07-18, 12:23
- MK.44 Stand Asides were my go-to Y1 Titan Crucible exotic... -
CyberKN,
2017-07-18, 12:13
- MK.44 Stand Asides were my go-to Y1 Titan Crucible exotic... -
Korny,
2017-07-18, 11:52
- Noooooo - Cody Miller, 2017-07-18, 11:46
- good, shoulder charge was bad
- Noooooo -
CyberKN,
2017-07-18, 11:43
- Lets be honest. Shoulder charge was OP. -
UnrealCh13f,
2017-07-18, 12:42
- Agreed - TheeChaos, 2017-07-18, 12:49
- I dispute this. -
CyberKN,
2017-07-18, 12:52
- False -
unoudid,
2017-07-18, 13:02
- False -
CyberKN,
2017-07-18, 13:05
- False -
squidnh3,
2017-07-18, 13:09
- Finally, a good point. -
CyberKN,
2017-07-18, 13:11
- Finally, a good point. -
unoudid,
2017-07-18, 13:14
- Word. - BeardFade, 2017-07-18, 13:23
- Also, to clarify: -
CyberKN,
2017-07-18, 13:15
- Also, to clarify: -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-18, 13:43
- Also, to clarify: - unoudid, 2017-07-18, 14:12
- Also, to clarify: - ProbablyLast, 2017-07-18, 21:26
- Also, to clarify: -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-18, 13:43
- Finally, a good point. -
unoudid,
2017-07-18, 13:14
- False - Cody Miller, 2017-07-18, 13:41
- Finally, a good point. -
CyberKN,
2017-07-18, 13:11
- False -
squidnh3,
2017-07-18, 13:09
- False -
CyberKN,
2017-07-18, 13:05
- Uh-Uh. -
Morpheus,
2017-07-18, 15:27
- Uh-Uh. -
CyberKN,
2017-07-18, 19:53
- Uh-Uh. -
Morpheus,
2017-07-19, 11:51
- Hell, Even In Real Life. - Morpheus, 2017-07-19, 12:17
- Oh, give me a break. -
CyberKN,
2017-07-19, 12:46
- Break me off a pice of that Kit Kat bar... -
Korny,
2017-07-19, 14:07
- Oh, give me a break. -
dogcow,
2017-07-19, 14:12
- Oh, give me a break. - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-07-21, 05:50
- Oh, give me a break. -
dogcow,
2017-07-19, 14:12
- Break me off a pice of that Kit Kat bar... -
Korny,
2017-07-19, 14:07
- Hey Cyber! -
Morpheus,
2017-08-02, 23:42
- Hey Cyber! -
Vortech,
2017-08-03, 08:06
- Hey Cyber! -
Morpheus,
2017-08-03, 09:20
- Hey Cyber! -
Vortech,
2017-08-03, 11:41
- Hey Cyber! - Robot Chickens, 2017-08-03, 12:55
- Hey Cyber! -
Vortech,
2017-08-03, 11:41
- Hey Cyber! -
Morpheus,
2017-08-03, 09:20
- "Stationary position" everyone -
CyberKN,
2017-08-03, 12:30
- "Not Sprinting" Position, Everybody! -
Morpheus,
2017-08-03, 13:11
- That's not what you said at all. -
CyberKN,
2017-08-03, 15:34
- Ready For The Best Part? -
Morpheus,
2017-08-03, 17:45
- Ready For The Best Part? -
Claude Errera,
2017-08-03, 22:00
- Oh Definitely. - Morpheus, 2017-08-04, 01:08
- Ready For The Best Part? -
Claude Errera,
2017-08-03, 22:00
- Ready For The Best Part? -
Morpheus,
2017-08-03, 17:45
- That's not what you said at all. -
CyberKN,
2017-08-03, 15:34
- "Not Sprinting" Position, Everybody! -
Morpheus,
2017-08-03, 13:11
- Hey Cyber! -
Vortech,
2017-08-03, 08:06
- Uh-Uh. -
Morpheus,
2017-07-19, 11:51
- I want to play your version of the game. -
ProbablyLast,
2017-07-18, 21:23
- Drop some acid, find an old 28.8k modem, and you're in.
- Funkmon, 2017-07-18, 22:32
- Instructions Unclear - Cody Miller, 2017-07-18, 22:35
- You Got It! - Morpheus, 2017-07-19, 11:57
- Drop some acid, find an old 28.8k modem, and you're in.
- Irony? -
Blackt1g3r,
2017-07-19, 07:25
- Not Strongest, Longest. -
Morpheus,
2017-07-19, 12:01
- Not Strongest, Longest. - Harmanimus, 2017-07-19, 14:01
- Not Strongest, Longest. -
Morpheus,
2017-07-19, 12:01
- Uh-Uh. -
CyberKN,
2017-07-18, 19:53
- False -
unoudid,
2017-07-18, 13:02
- Initial impressions are... bad. -
ManKitten,
2017-07-18, 13:27
- I was talking from a Purely PvE perspective. - CyberKN, 2017-07-18, 13:51
- Initial impressions are... bad. -
General Battuta,
2017-07-18, 14:23
- ^
- Funkmon, 2017-07-18, 14:36
- ^
- Initial impressions (warlock) - slycrel, 2017-07-18, 13:29
- Could this be due to low level and dumpy white guns? -
Funkmon,
2017-07-18, 14:37
- Could this be due to low level and dumpy white guns? -
Harmanimus,
2017-07-18, 14:58
- Uh oh.
- Funkmon, 2017-07-18, 15:20
- Uh oh.
- Everything is Legen....wait for it.... -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2017-07-18, 14:58
- I love you even more now.
- ProbablyLast, 2017-07-18, 15:21
- I love you even more now.
- Could this be due to low level and dumpy white guns? -
Harmanimus,
2017-07-18, 14:58
- Initial impressions are... good. -
kidtsunami,
2017-07-18, 15:36
- Initial impressions are... good. - Harmanimus, 2017-07-18, 16:33
- Noooooo -
Blackt1g3r,
2017-07-18, 11:24
- Slower [Titan Class comments] -
Harmanimus,
2017-07-18, 14:25
- [Hunter Class comments] -
Harmanimus,
2017-07-19, 00:10
- [Warlock Class/General comments] *Possible Spoilers* /long/ -
Harmanimus,
2017-07-20, 01:09
- [Warlock Class/General comments] *Possible Spoilers* /long/ -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-07-20, 07:41
- [Warlock Class/General comments] *Possible Spoilers* /long/ -
dogcow,
2017-07-20, 07:46
- Hedge beat us both - DiscipleN2k, 2017-07-20, 07:49
- [Warlock Class/General comments] *Possible Spoilers* /long/ -
dogcow,
2017-07-20, 07:46
- [Warlock Class/General comments] McCartney Lives in D2 - dogcow, 2017-07-20, 07:45
- [Warlock Class/General comments] *Possible Spoilers* /long/ -
stabbim,
2017-07-21, 08:36
- [Warlock Class/General comments] *Possible Spoilers* /long/ -
Harmanimus,
2017-07-21, 09:52
- [Warlock Class/General comments] *Possible Spoilers* /long/ - stabbim, 2017-07-21, 11:47
- [Warlock Class/General comments] *Possible Spoilers* /long/ -
Harmanimus,
2017-07-21, 09:52
- [Additional PvE comments] - Harmanimus, 2017-07-22, 01:08
- [Warlock Class/General comments] *Possible Spoilers* /long/ -
DiscipleN2k,
2017-07-20, 07:41
- [Warlock Class/General comments] *Possible Spoilers* /long/ -
Harmanimus,
2017-07-20, 01:09
- [Hunter Class comments] -
Harmanimus,
2017-07-19, 00:10
- You mean the wait till Friday?
- Cody Miller, 2017-07-18, 16:54
- Overall I'm really liking it. - Xenos, 2017-07-18, 17:30
- Pretty dang buggy. -
Korny,
2017-07-18, 17:45
- Pretty dang buggy. - CaneCutter, 2017-07-18, 22:00
- Will third nausea. I think it was the fire movements.
- CommandrCleavage, 2017-07-19, 06:11
- Pretty dang buggy. -
Kalamari,
2017-07-19, 07:34
- Pretty dang buggy. - CommandrCleavage, 2017-07-19, 08:30
- I had to play it twice -
Schedonnardus,
2017-07-20, 06:34
- I had to play it twice - Korny, 2017-07-20, 08:30
- Destiny 2: Nerf everything edition. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-07-18, 18:39
- Suggested light is 210, we are at 200, explains some of it.
- slycrel, 2017-07-18, 18:52
- good point. Why would they do that, though?
- CruelLEGACEY, 2017-07-19, 09:49
- Test Light Level Balancing?
- TheeChaos, 2017-07-19, 10:48
- Test Light Level Balancing?
- good point. Why would they do that, though?
- Seems appropriate with the lost light and starting over?
- Vortech, 2017-07-19, 10:04
- Suggested light is 210, we are at 200, explains some of it.
- Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-07-18, 20:11
- Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) -
CyberKN,
2017-07-18, 20:17
- Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) -
Harmanimus,
2017-07-18, 22:22
- Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) -
Vortech,
2017-07-19, 10:07
- Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) -
Chappy,
2017-07-20, 08:35
- Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) - Vortech, 2017-07-20, 09:47
- Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) -
Chappy,
2017-07-20, 08:35
- Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) -
Vortech,
2017-07-19, 10:07
- Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) -
Harmanimus,
2017-07-18, 22:22
- Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) - Vortech, 2017-07-19, 10:06
- Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) -
Kahzgul,
2017-07-19, 21:03
- Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) - Blackt1g3r, 2017-07-20, 07:11
- Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) -
stabbim,
2017-07-25, 08:15
- Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) - Kermit, 2017-07-25, 10:18
- Question about story mission encounter (spoilers) -
CyberKN,
2017-07-18, 20:17
- What time do Xbox Servers go up?
- INSANEdrive, 2017-07-18, 21:15
- Don't know. Probably 10am PST
- CougRon, 2017-07-18, 21:20
- Supposedly 10 AM PT - Blackt1g3r, 2017-07-19, 07:31
- Don't know. Probably 10am PST
- So, how is it? -
CommandrCleavage,
2017-07-19, 06:31
- So, how is it? -
dogcow,
2017-07-19, 07:49
- So, how is it? -
CommandrCleavage,
2017-07-19, 08:40
- Tower Battle - Firefight? - dogcow, 2017-07-19, 08:51
- Replay Homecoming mission -
Blackt1g3r,
2017-07-19, 09:39
- Replay Homecoming mission -
dogcow,
2017-07-19, 09:59
- Replay Homecoming mission - Vortech, 2017-07-19, 10:12
- It appears that each class always has the same loadout. -
slycrel,
2017-07-19, 13:16
- It appears that each class always has the same loadout. - Ragashingo, 2017-07-19, 14:47
- You can change your loadout - Kahzgul, 2017-07-19, 21:10
- Replay Homecoming mission -
dogcow,
2017-07-19, 09:59
- So, how is it? -
Vortech,
2017-07-19, 10:10
- So, how is it? -
Korny,
2017-07-19, 10:45
- So, how is it? -
TheeChaos,
2017-07-19, 10:49
- So, how is it? -
Korny,
2017-07-19, 11:13
- So, how is it? -
TheeChaos,
2017-07-19, 11:18
- So, how is it? -
Korny,
2017-07-19, 11:20
- XD
- TheeChaos, 2017-07-19, 11:22
- XD
- So, how is it? -
Korny,
2017-07-19, 11:20
- So, how is it? -
TheeChaos,
2017-07-19, 11:18
- So, how is it? -
Korny,
2017-07-19, 11:13
- So, how is it? -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-19, 11:22
- So, how is it? -
Revenant1988,
2017-07-19, 13:24
- So, how is it? - Cody Miller, 2017-07-19, 13:34
- So, how is it? -
biggy,
2017-07-19, 15:59
- ^*NM*Post *NM* - Pyromancy, 2017-07-19, 21:37
- So, how is it? -
Revenant1988,
2017-07-19, 13:24
- So, how is it? -
TheeChaos,
2017-07-19, 10:49
- So, how is it? -
Korny,
2017-07-19, 10:45
- So, how is it? -
CommandrCleavage,
2017-07-19, 08:40
- So, how is it? -
dogcow,
2017-07-19, 07:49
- More thoughts, after a day to think about it -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-07-19, 13:38
- I'll eat my AoT shirt if cooldowns stay as they are.
- Ragashingo, 2017-07-19, 14:57
- More thoughts, after a day to think about it -
Vortech,
2017-07-19, 15:48
- More thoughts, after a day to think about it - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-07-19, 17:12
- More thoughts, after a day to think about it -
EffortlessFury,
2017-07-20, 09:20
- More thoughts, after a day to think about it - Xenos, 2017-07-20, 09:31
- I'll eat my AoT shirt if cooldowns stay as they are.
- Regarding Slow Cooldowns -
Blackt1g3r,
2017-07-19, 14:38
- Regarding Slow Cooldowns - Ragashingo, 2017-07-19, 15:02
- Regarding Slow Cooldowns -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-07-19, 15:54
- Regarding Slow Cooldowns -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-19, 16:34
- Regarding Slow Cooldowns - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-07-19, 17:09
- Regarding Slow Cooldowns -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-19, 16:34
- Regarding Slow Cooldowns - Harmanimus, 2017-07-19, 16:26
- It also makes some special abilities really strong - Kahzgul, 2017-07-19, 21:11
- So, how is it? -
Hedgemony,
2017-07-19, 19:02
- AHHHH! A Ghost!
- Revenant1988, 2017-07-19, 19:25
- Did you check out the jukebox? -
Kahzgul,
2017-07-19, 20:53
- Did you check out the jukebox? - Kermit, 2017-07-20, 09:38
- Hedge!?! Did you see this? *Poss. SP?* -
Pyromancy,
2017-07-19, 21:27
- Hedge!?! Did you see this? *Poss. SP?* - Hedgemony, 2017-07-21, 08:18
- So, how is it? - dogcow, 2017-07-20, 07:57
- AHHHH! A Ghost!
- So, how is it? -
ProbablyLast,
2017-07-19, 19:26
- I definitely missed a patrol/exploration mode, but... -
Kahzgul,
2017-07-19, 21:12
- Was quite fun to explore. :)
- Claude Errera, 2017-07-19, 22:09
- You think we could matchmake 2 DBO teams toExplore Crucible?
- Pyromancy, 2017-07-20, 11:41
- Would probably be pretty hard
- Claude Errera, 2017-07-20, 11:57
- Would probably be pretty hard
- You think we could matchmake 2 DBO teams toExplore Crucible?
- Yeah, it's a nice area. - ProbablyLast, 2017-07-20, 10:12
- Was quite fun to explore. :)
- I definitely missed a patrol/exploration mode, but... -
Kahzgul,
2017-07-19, 21:12
- Explore Inverted Spire. -
DEEP_NNN,
2017-07-19, 20:46
- Man cannon loop is top 2 activity in beta. We did it 3 times
- Funkmon, 2017-07-20, 08:05
- Man cannon loop is top 2 activity in beta. We did it 3 times
- I found the radar colours lacking. - DEEP_NNN, 2017-07-20, 05:38
- My Thoughts - Blackt1g3r, 2017-07-20, 06:58
- For those talking about recharge rates -
Xenos,
2017-07-20, 08:16
- For those talking about recharge rates - Cody Miller, 2017-07-20, 09:30
- For those talking about recharge rates -
Kermit,
2017-07-20, 09:33
- For those talking about recharge rates -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-07-20, 14:53
- For those talking about recharge rates - Blackt1g3r, 2017-07-20, 15:25
- For those talking about recharge rates -
Xenos,
2017-07-20, 16:18
- For those talking about recharge rates -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-07-20, 17:04
- For those talking about recharge rates -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-21, 14:32
- For those talking about recharge rates - Harmanimus, 2017-07-21, 15:35
- For those talking about recharge rates -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-21, 14:32
- For those talking about recharge rates -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-07-20, 17:04
- For those talking about recharge rates -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-07-20, 14:53
- For those talking about recharge rates -
biggy,
2017-07-20, 16:47
- For those talking about recharge rates - Xenos, 2017-07-20, 16:50
- For those talking about recharge rates -
Harmanimus,
2017-07-20, 17:03
- For those talking about recharge rates -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-07-20, 17:11
- For those talking about recharge rates -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-20, 18:11
- For those talking about recharge rates -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-07-20, 18:23
- For those talking about recharge rates -
Blackt1g3r,
2017-07-20, 21:41
- For those talking about recharge rates -
Xenos,
2017-07-21, 07:34
- For those talking about recharge rates - Harmanimus, 2017-07-21, 09:54
- For those talking about recharge rates -
Xenos,
2017-07-21, 07:34
- For those talking about recharge rates -
Blackt1g3r,
2017-07-20, 21:41
- For those talking about recharge rates -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-07-20, 18:23
- For those talking about recharge rates -
Ragashingo,
2017-07-20, 18:11
- For those talking about recharge rates -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-07-20, 17:11
- Looks & Feels...Weird -
squidnh3,
2017-07-20, 10:47
- Looks & Feels...Weird -
Korny,
2017-07-20, 11:03
- Looks & Feels...Weird -
Harmanimus,
2017-07-20, 11:06
- Looks & Feels...Weird - Korny, 2017-07-21, 19:52
- Looks & Feels...Weird - narcogen, 2017-07-21, 20:05
- Looks & Feels...Weird -
Harmanimus,
2017-07-20, 11:06
- Looks & Feels...Weird - biggy, 2017-07-20, 16:42
- Oh! -
INSANEdrive,
2017-07-20, 22:56
- Oh! - dogcow, 2017-07-21, 08:17
- Played 4 hours as warlock. Looks the same, feels the same. - Funkmon, 2017-07-21, 07:06
- Looks & Feels...Weird -
Korny,
2017-07-20, 11:03
- Greg Cote voice "Lovin' It" - ManKitten, 2017-07-20, 12:34
- Overall - Kermit, 2017-07-21, 10:54
- On Storytelling -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-21, 15:05
- On Storytelling -
Kermit,
2017-07-21, 15:21
- On Storytelling -
Harmanimus,
2017-07-21, 15:32
- On Storytelling -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-21, 15:35
- On Storytelling - Harmanimus, 2017-07-21, 15:42
- On Storytelling -
narcogen,
2017-07-21, 20:04
- On Storytelling - Cody Miller, 2017-07-21, 22:13
- +1 - Kermit, 2017-07-24, 09:06
- On Storytelling - DEEP_NNN, 2017-07-22, 06:45
- On Storytelling -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-07-21, 16:39
- On Storytelling -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-21, 16:43
- On Storytelling - Harmanimus, 2017-07-21, 16:47
- Unfortunately, I agree
- CruelLEGACEY, 2017-07-21, 17:40
- On Storytelling -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-21, 16:43
- On Storytelling -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-21, 15:35
- On Storytelling - Cody Miller, 2017-07-21, 15:38
- On Storytelling -
Harmanimus,
2017-07-21, 15:32
- On Storytelling - Ragashingo, 2017-07-21, 16:23
- On Storytelling -
Kermit,
2017-07-21, 15:21
- Cody's Hype Level -
Cody Miller,
2017-07-21, 22:50
- Nailed It.
- DEEP_NNN, 2017-07-22, 06:50
- Cody's Hype Level - Pretty close to my feelings.
- dogcow, 2017-07-24, 08:46
- Nailed It.
- So, how is it? -
Korny,
2017-07-18, 10:25